drive thru rbww 35
4
Carsales Staff6 Aug 2019
NEWS

Vic Police enrage public with fast-food fine post

Police flag fines on Facebook for motorists using a mobile phone to pay for junk food at drive-thru

Would you like fines with that?

Victoria Police has come under fire after its social media post outlined that motorists could be fined $484 and lose four demerit points if they used their smartphone to pay for fast food at their favourite drive-through.

In a post on its official Facebook page, Victoria Police answered its own question: "When using a fast-food outlet’s drive-thru service, can I use my phone to pay?"

If the engine's running and pay with a smartphone, you're breaking the law

The answer? "Using a handheld mobile phone while driving carries a $484 fine and accrue 4 demerit points," stated Victoria Police. And yes, that includes any fast-good drive-through service.

The backlash from the public was immediate with most commenters declaring the rule to be a blatant revenue-raising ploy.

Advice: Is it legal to eat and drive?

Almost 4000 replies have been posted to date -- most of them questioning the logic of the heavy-handed response.

Sertac Icer said: "I don't see the difference with pulling out your phone to pay versus your card/cash. I see cash more distracting and time consuming."

Phone pay systems could get motorists into big trouble

Mike Adler felt more strongly about the situation, using sarcasm to illustrate his point: "You can’t [use your phone] because of ALL THE HUGE auto accidents that have happened in Maccas drive-thrus! Clearly it’s an epidemic because of all the death, injury and property damage! I hope you guys are stalking out these Drive-thru Death-Traps on a regular basis! Phew!!! Thank god [sic] for VICPOL."

Advice: Mobile phone laws explains

According to Victoria Police, the only way you can legally pay with your mobile phone is to "…apply the hand brake, switch the engine off and then access your mobile phone. In doing so, you are not considered driving."

Some cars are fitted with auto-hold and engine automatic engine cut-off systems, but it's not clear if these constitute 'not driving' as stipulated by law.

South Australian traffic law expert Karen Stanley, speaking to ABC Radio Adelaide, said that mobile phone laws are designed to reduce the use of devices while motorists are driving or even stopped at red lights, but admitted that some laws have "…struggled to keep up with technology".

One of these new BMW 5 Series cop cars could be staking out the drive-thru

The key part of many road rules is the wording and Stanley said that interpretation was crucial. For example, motorists can operate certain devices in certain conditions, such as Google Maps for navigating, but only if the device is 'securely mounted'.

Another example allows motorists to use a device when the vehicle is 'parked' but as Stanley points out the terminology "…was not really well defined."

"The safest policy to adopt is, you can't do anything with a mobile phone unless it's securely mounted or you're parked," she said.

The recent furore around fast-food drive-through smartphone payments comes as governments around Australia are beginning to employ new speed cameras with facial recognition technology that can determine – and fine – road users on their mobile phones.

Related reading:
Higher fines for motorists using mobile phones
How do you know if you're a bad driver
How to drive a manual car
The dos and don'ts of back seat burgers

Share this article
Written byCarsales Staff
See all articles
Our team of independent expert car reviewers and journalists
Meet the team
Stay up to dateBecome a carsales member and get the latest news, reviews and advice straight to your inbox.
Subscribe today
Sell your car with Instant Offer™
Like trade-in but price is regularly higher
1. Get a free Instant Offer™ online in minutes2. An official local dealer will inspect your car3. Finalise the details and get paid the next business day
Get a free Instant Offer
Sell your car with Instant Offer™
Disclaimer
Please see our Editorial Guidelines & Code of Ethics (including for more information about sponsored content and paid events). The information published on this website is of a general nature only and doesn’t consider your particular circumstances or needs.
Love every move.
Buy it. Sell it.Love it.
®
Scan to download the carsales app
    DownloadAppCta
    AppStoreDownloadGooglePlayDownload
    Want more info? Here’s our app landing page App Store and the Apple logo are trademarks of Apple Inc. Google Play and the Google Play logo are trademarks of Google LLC.
    © carsales.com.au Pty Ltd 1999-2025
    In the spirit of reconciliation we acknowledge the Traditional Custodians of Country throughout Australia and their connections to land, sea and community. We pay our respect to their Elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples today.